13February2012

Windmill Generator Motor

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Robert asks…

motor/generators for homemade windmill?

i am thinking about try to make a homemade windmill. for a hs science competition, i made a small scale one that worked well, and we had to use the standard little DC motors as the generator and it worked well.
when i was talking w/ my tech teacher, he said that this would only work w/ dc motors, i mean the generating power part. is this true, b/c i have an old blender motor i was thinking of trying to turn into a windmill motor? if you have any more questions about the motor, i will try to answer them as best i can. i also have an old garage door motor. will either work?
thanks

admin answers:

The blender motor is probably a universal motor. That is a DC motor with the field connected in series with the armature. That type of motor is called “universal” because it will work on either DC or AC. It is possible that it would work as a DC generator, but I think that you would need to open it up and reverse the field connection. It would need some residual magnetism to get started as a generator and it might not have enough.

The garage door motor might work by following the directions in the link provided in another answer.

Something larger than the little motor that you have already used but very similar, would be a permanent magnet DC motor from a car. They are used for electric windows, windshield wipers, electric seats and even the fan that blows air through the radiator. Probably not all motors used for those purposes are permanent magnet motors, but I think many are. Some have gears attached that might be impossible to remove. I have a radiator fan motor that would work quite well. You could probably be able to get one of those at a salvage yard.

Laura asks…

Fisher Paykel Smartdrive motor/generator?

Where can I find a Smartdrive motor from a Fisher Paykel washing maching ? I have googled it many times and I find plenty of info for making a windmill generator out of one of these but I can not find a retailer to buy one from.

admin answers:

Find a local repair shop that services that brand and see if they would be willing to order it for you. You may need to order it directly from them or buy the washing machine to get it.

Lizzie asks…

What would you need to do to a brushless DC motor to turn it into a generator?

I am new to learning about generators and dont know much about DC electricity. I am experimenting with building a windmill for household power. Would machining the shaft and placing magnets in it work? I am first building one with homemade coils and earth magnets, but somebody suggested using a dc motor housing and thought i would check into it. Thanks for any input.

admin answers:

Hi,

First of all,a brushless DC motor needs an alternative arrangement that could cause the reversal of input direct current for developing a constant torque in armature.This may be achieved with the help of any electronic inverter connected to the input terminals of motor as the brushes in a dc motor actually act as mechanical inverter.

Now,to run a dc motor as generator:

Rotate the shaft of the motor by coupling it through any prime mover(such as engine or any other generator) at rated speed

The field excitation to the motor circuit must be provided using any dc source.Now,the motor runs as a generator.

Importantly,an arrangement(either an electronic rectifier or brushes) that could reverse the direction of induced current in the armature,which is of alternating nature,must be provided at the output.This is required so as to obtain dc power at load.

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13February2012

Wind Generator Parts

Posted by admin under: Windmill FAQ.

Laura asks…

What parts of a wind generator change kinetic energy into electical energy?

admin answers:

The winds spin the large external blades (the part that looks like a propeller), which spins the internal portion of the generator, which creates electricity.

Winds are kinetic, blades and internal turbine turn it to electrical energy.

James asks…

I made a wind generator, what parts do I need to hook it up to my electric grid, I don’t want battery back up.?

admin answers:

I am with you. If I made a wind generator I would not want a battery if I had utility power because using the power from it would not be as practical as sending any power I don’t need straight to the power grid.

You need a type of inverter that can connect the two. One name for it is an on-grid inverter. There are many available but without information on your generator the best I can give you is some links. I can tell you that most of these devices boost the DC voltage to about 175VDC (for 120V output) and control a PWM (pulse width modulation) circuit using a line sync processor. A 500W unit is at http://www.bestpowerinverter.com/500w-wind-grid-tie-inverter-dc-2260v-with-dump-load-controller-p-45.html

Good Energy Links

http://www.care2.com/channels/ecoinfo/energy

http://energybible.com/

http://www.ecobusinesslinks.com

Ken asks…

Where can I find the top part of an anemometer that catches the wind, or how to make one?

I’m doing a project making my own wind generator and I found out how to make the generator part, I just need a piece that resembles the wind-catching part of an anemometer. Anyone know how to make one or find one?

admin answers:

You could probably make one easy enough with two ping pong balls and some Popsicle sticks or durable straws.

Cut the ping pong balls in half and you could use those to catch the wind, and they resemble those of most anemometers.

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13February2012

Wind Turbine Technician Jobs Answers

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Lisa asks…

why do people always shoot down my noble small business ideas?

I’ve had very many ideas, but mom and dad tell me to get a job. I DON’T WANNA BE A SLAVE FOR 8.75 AN HOUR! I worked at target as a cashier, a cart attendant, and a food server. working for a low wage on black friday was not fun. I admire those who can do it with a smile. Also tried being a CNA, but got fired quickly.They should be paid a lot more! Then I went to an accelerated Wind Turbine Technician school, but couldn’t keep up, nor keep interested. It’s way more technical than I thought it would be! I admire these guys too! lol i’m being redundant
I want to help people in a BIG way, by doing something that has never been done before.
(like manufacture pianos for thousands less, or help teens get living-wage-paying jobs without a college degree, or manufacture unicycles for less money, selling awesome wood crafts like canoes, or being a musician and singing about peace, or farming organic food, etc…)

I’m sad because I want to be self-employed, but don’t know where to start. :(

please don’t say “get a job”, cuz it’s not that easy being 18, and with limited/no experience.

THXVRYMCH for your valuable time.

with love,
Nick

admin answers:

Hi Nick the world needs people like you , so never give up your ideas , but you will have to learn how to choose and what kind of ideas you should keep in a box for later . Often you will need cash or some investors and right now it will be tough to find investors . But never give up
you could start with trying to get some commercial ideas , that will help you to get some cash and will help a shop owner to sell more. , and then you would not have problems with your parents and could try to do one of your ideas. There is a good change that it will fail , learn from it , and keep on going , i had many “good ” ideas that never went anywhere , but i also had a few that brought me enough so that if i wanted i would not have to work the next 12 years

Sandy asks…

Is my Resume Good Enough…?

I am applying to be a wind turbine technician…i am currently one but am looking to move to another company,any tips or ideas to add is greatly appreciated.

ObjectiveTo Obtain a Position as a Wind Turbine Technician/Field Technician

ExperienceWIND TURBINE TECHNICIAN
Energy Maintenance Services
September 29th, 2008 – Currently employed
Job Responsibility
Perform repairs and maintenance on turbines
Change gearbox oil
Torque/Grease wind turbines
Completes applicable safety program training requirements

OIL SERVICE TECHNICIAN
Nick and Dave’s Tire Store
April 14th 2007- September 28th, 2008
Job responsibility
Oil Changes
Checking Differential
Checking Batteries
Tire Break downs

PAINTER
Tim Palmer’s Painting
December 2006- April 2007
Job responsibility
Painting walls
Staining
Cutting In
Prep Work

MAINTENANCE/GROUNDS KEEPER
Kern County Fair Grounds
June 2006- November 2006
Job responsibility
Maintain Fair Grounds
Fork Lift Operator
Jack Hammer
Construction
Deconstruction
Pour Concrete
Supervised Work Release

EducationMonroe High School,
2000-2004
General Education

ReferencesReferences are available on request.

admin answers:

Short and to the point…good…
Your first sentence needs work…you have some caps where they should not be….fix it and also try to personalize it to the company you are applying to….also make sure you have ur name,add,phone,cell and email address on resume..good luck

Nancy asks…

What do sustainable energy technicians do?

I ask because I can’t get a clear answer from the college near me thats offering the sustainable energy technician program which leads to an A.A.S.

I know what the course if for and what I will learn, but when I actually search for a sustainable energy technician JOB I can’t find anything whatsoever! I see other “green jobs” but all require a bachelors degree. So, is there anyone out there who can help me get a clearer picture of what exactly I can do with this degree? I see there are a few things listed that I can do, I’m not interested in installing and repairing in just one field though, I’d rather be more involved then that, in a job that pays more money then what some of these listed pay. If I have the knowledge in ALL of it then I want to use all of it, know what I mean?

Thanks in advance.

PS here is a part of the description.

In the SET courses’ labs, students will gain practical hands-on
experience in a variety of sustainable energy technologies. Students
will be qualified for entry-level positions in sustainable energy fields
such as wind, photovoltaic solar, biofuels and gasification.
These jobs include, but are not limited to:
wind turbine installation and repair;
• solar panel installation and repair;
• energy efficient building, construction and remodeling;
• repair of energy-efficient vehicles;
• biofuels production;
• energy-efficiency assessment;
• alternative energy research; and
• geothermal installation and repair

admin answers:

Entry level positions and the schooling that it takes to get these just opens the door to a job. Most of these kinds of jobs either require experience, which you will get in an entry level job, or higher education AND experience.
Unfortunately, no one ever uses all the things they learned in school. It would be shortsighted to think that if you learn all that, that you would use it. You would have to work for several different companies because none of them is going to do everything listed.

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13February2012

Energy Windmills Answers

Posted by admin under: Windmill FAQ.

Donald asks…

Energy transformations in Windmills???

Im doing a project on Wind Energy and i must know the energy transformations in windmills.I’ve been looking on google but dont see any answers.

admin answers:

The Reverse Mortgages has given you some applications. Also what you need to know are also the classifications and deficiency of conversion of wind into mechanical energy.
We have vertical axis wind turbines (VAWT) and horizontal axis wind turbines (HAWT) [1]. We have drag type and lift type.
The champion of highest deficiency is a HAWT or turbine that resembles a planes propeller. Look up Betz limit [1]. It has a an impressive 59% or so.

Also the for electricity generation a tip speed to wind ration is important. For a ‘propeller’ it is about 6 (very impressive)

Let me know if you have more questions.

Lizzie asks…

What kind of energy does a windmill produce?

Also its probably a stupid question but does it use wind energy to make energy? And it doesn’t matter what type of windmill it is just give me a couple of different types of energy it can produce.

Please and Thank You!

admin answers:

“Wind Energy” is produced by the wind,not a windMILL. A windmill converts the wind into MECHANICAL energy, at one time just left that way to turn a wheel that would grind grain or pump water. Today’s versions turn wind energy into mechanical energy to run a turbine and generate electricity. D’oh.

Joseph asks…

What is the average wage of someone who works in renewable energy?

What would someone who works in the renewable energy sector, like windmills etc get paid, what would be the starting off salary and what would the average salary be, what countrys could you travel to with it?, im thinking of getting into it in the future. Thanks, any information would be good.

admin answers:

That’s a really broad question. Are you in the USA? Here’s wage information, by state, then by occupation: http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oessrcst.htm

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13February2012

Electric Windmills Work Answers

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Daniel asks…

Has anybody invented a SIMPLE device to allow home generated power to flow back into the grid?

Ok, I know that people have solar panels and windmills and such with some sort of device that allows the electric meter to run backwards. But, my thoughts is that we need a simple device that is inexpensive and that EVERY home could have that does the exact same thing.

Imagine if you could simply plug your tredmill into this device and save 50 cents or work with your kid on a amature solar setup to save a few bucks. I think a stepping stone like this would vastly accelerate people moving to more serious forms of personal power production. But, first it has to be affordable and out there in most homes.

Thoughts on this?

admin answers:

Grid tie isn’t expensive, but there are legal and safety issues. The grid doesn’t belong to you. It belongs to the power company and it’s their job to maintain it and keep it safe.

Grid tie inverters have to disconnect automatically when there is no functioning grid. And if you backfeed the grid without permission and the proper two-way meter, it will register as theft (on most new meters).

That’s not cheap and never will be. You can’t make power cheap like the electric company.

If you want to save money, start conserving. My bill for the last three months has averaged $10. I don’t run the a/c or heat, use a solar pv battery setup for typing this and running the room light. I run a washing machine, but use a wooden drying rack instead of the electric dryer. I still run a 1 1/2 HP irrigation pump but only maybe 1 hour a week and then only if it doesn’t rain. I changed out the back yard light to a 13 watt flourescent with a photocell.

If it’s too cold to sleep, I have a small heating pad for my bed.

I also bought an 12v dc Engel 43 qt. Refrigerator (NOT cheap). It is a real fridge with freon 134a, but only uses 36 watts max when running. It keeps cheese, milk and eggs just fine. I unplugged the Hotpoint fridge I was using and use it for dry storage. I don’t hate the power company, I just got frustrated being in the dark every time a major hurricane went through.

Joseph asks…

How can I reach director Michael Bay to show him my ideas for Transformers 3?

I am interested in partnering my company “Transformers Character Creation Studios” with Michael Bay to work together on characters for the next movie. I have developed the first character that I would like to show him so I need to find a way to talk to him. This is a new character I think will make a great villain for the next movie. He is a decepticon named “Pinwheel” and he transforms out of windmills. Its sort of to show people the dark side of windmills. His main weapon is a hemp whip and he also has a secondary weapon that is an electric pistol. He is very dangerous because he isn’t powered by the allspark he is powered by wind and can also control it. This is him

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8651/pinwheel.jpg

Anyway I need to reach Michael Bay to negotiate rights to the character and all the merchandise etc. I am the only one who can do the voice right (he sounds like starscream talking into a box fan) so we will have to decide on pricing for the voice work also.

admin answers:

It’s not that people can’t hear, it’s that they don’t listen. The third rule is, “It’s not that people can’t read, it’s that they don’t read.” I clicked on your image to see what you were referring to. Interesting. But I’m not a producer. Your problem is not whether you can find Mr. Bay. Your problem is that if you did, what could you do about it? Can you make him look at your idea? Can you force him to even glance at your drawings, irrespective of how quality they are? Nope. If he already knows what he wants to do in the third movie, he is one of those “mind’s already made up.” Ever try to talk to one of those folk? (Think of your parents.) Personally, I think an independently-powered Transformer is a good idea. So good, there is ALSO the possibility that they’ve thought of it also, without your input, and if they do that, you’ll get not a penny. Sorry.

Nancy asks…

Easy (Not for me) Physics Question?

Here are two homework questions (out of 47 LOL) that I couldn’t understand. If it helps, we are discussing work, energy, conservation of energy, etc. THANKS AS ALWAYS EVERYONE!!

1.)Rows of wind-powered generators are used in various windy locations to generate electric power. Does the power generated affect the speed? Would locations behind the “windmills” be windier if they aren’t there? Discuss this in terms of energy conservation.

(Problem at bottom of page with illustration)

http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=5&filename=Compilations_CPworkbook_WorkEnergy.xml

2.) Which block gets to the bottom of the incline first assuming no friction?
(Midway down the page)
http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=5&filename=Compilations_CPworkbook_WorkEnergy.xml

admin answers:

Dunno about #1, but for #2, because there is no friction, gravity is the only force that matters, and because gravity affects everything equally, and both inclines are vertically identical (ie, they are of the same height), they will reach the bottom at the same time. Block B (on the less steep incline) would have greater speed because it has involves a greater horizontal contribution to its speed.

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13February2012

Windmill Powered Car Answers

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Carol asks…

will it work: multiple generating engine?

So from what ive learned and asked it is impossible to get enough power to keep a battery charged off its own power no matter how many generators are used BUT Is it possible to use multiple energy sources running generators to one battery that would create a form of “free energy” (not in the real sense but the no fuel consumption sense)
Example:
Your vehicle has an independent battery for each wheel, each wheel has a series of 10 small wheels attatched to generators on top of them and as the wheel turns it generates power that is returned to the batteries, THEN a central battery would be attatched to generators throughout the car that would fill that small gap of lost energy, the cars roof would be covered in solar panels, the scoop would have a honeycomb of small windmills, ect and these would power the central battery that would send power to the 4 other batteries to fill the small gap of energy loss from the independent generators on the wheels. SO would it work?
i want realistic examples if you say its nonsense, weve gotten an engine to work for close to 15 minutes off its own power by using small generators, so the ammount of power needed to push that percentage over the “little bit of free” isnt much im asking if its been tested and where the info is because i believe it will work unless someone shows me proof it wont because what weve done here shows its close to possible
ps… steve… its that attitude thats why we arent surfing the galaxy yet. theres always a way. just gotta find that sweet spot

admin answers:

No.

The bit about the many small generators and batteries and wheels is all nonsense. Sorry. Many small generators or batteries is no better than one large set, and is in fact less efficient.

Wind turbines on a car don’t do any good, it takes more power to push them through the air then they would generate.

A solar array on the roof is the only thing you said that makes sense, that could possibly work.

Please study basic physics and electricity.

.

Helen asks…

will it wiork: multiple generating engine?

So from what ive learned and asked it is impossible to get enough power to keep a battery charged off its own power no matter how many generators are used BUT Is it possible to use multiple energy sources running generators to one battery that would create a form of “free energy” (not in the real sense but the no fuel consumption sense)
Example:
Your vehicle has an independent battery for each wheel, each wheel has a series of 10 small wheels attatched to generators on top of them and as the wheel turns it generates power that is returned to the batteries, THEN a central battery would be attatched to generators throughout the car that would fill that small gap of lost energy, the cars roof would be covered in solar panels, the scoop would have a honeycomb of small windmills, ect and these would power the central battery that would send power to the 4 other batteries to fill the small gap of energy loss from the independent generators on the wheels. SO would it work?

admin answers:

In theory, yes it should work. But this is not “free energy”. It is essentially just using renewable resources (solar and wind) as “fuel”. In practice, however, it would take much more analysis. Such as, how much power consumption by the wheels and how much loss must be recouped by the solar panels and wind generators? I think you would find that it would require massive solar panels to work and would thus be impractical.
It is true that you cannot keep a battery charged by its own energy, even through regeneration (such as the smaller 10 wheels in your example). There will always be losses. That type of system would violate the law of conservation of energy.

Michael asks…

Use Less but cost more?

hummm! in front of me is nestle plastic bottle water, lable says 30% less plastic used to make..then why is the price the same?? should it be 30% less of cost..

Cars made with less ,mostly recyled metal..hummm!! cost is much more…

now there making more solar/windmill type products to make and power cities…do you think the cost of your bill will go down..think again!

so why are cost the same or even more!!

and dont give me that garbage about cost more to reuse ,or recyle crap..that is not true,i have family thats in that field..from there mouths there saying its all about money not trying to save the earth..

I used to do curb side recycling alot, but not anymore!! after i thought about how many pockets i filled with my reused/recyled items, and my grocery bill gets higher and higher i will never again..

now im going to see some idiot reply back saying our land fields are getting full….hahaha we are not the only country, have you seen china? philippines ? africa??…Ive been to philippines, 5 min. outside and your nose is filled with black stuff, asian countries are the largest diesel users, skys are alot worst then cali.. there not changing there ways and we cant do anything about it…now think what country is the largest population?? HINT ITS NOT THE USA !!

admin answers:

Your not the only one who’s noticed.
Heres 3 examples.
I got a notice from my water company that I can expect my water bill to go up an average of 5$ per month this year because we had 18% more rain fall than usual last year & total water usage was down so they will have to raise the rate to make up for the reduced water usage.
Because we are using less gasoline now the government is proposing to raise gas taxes to 25 cents per gallon to make up the shortfall in road use taxes.
During the first energy crisis in the 70′s we all lowered our thermostats & dressed warmly as president Carter requested so the natural gas company raised the rates to make up for the lost revenue due to the fact we were using less gas to heat our homes.
One more
since we are driving more fuel efficient cars some western states & some federal legislators are proposing a tax based on miles driven. They plan on keeping track of your mileage through the mandatory installation of a gps unit on each vehicle.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CUTTING PRODUCTION EXPENSES WHEN SALES VOLUME FALLS?

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13February2012

Windmills Of Your Mind Answers

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Lizzie asks…

Who sang the song “Windmills of your mind”?

I thought it was Jose Feliciano but apparently not.

admin answers:

Michel Legrand

dusty springfield

loads

Jenny asks…

who originally sang the windmills of your mind in the 1960′s?

admin answers:

Dusty Springfield

Steven asks…

What’s going on in “The Windmills of your Mind”?

At this precise moment?
barmyowlscoo: Nice of you to mention it!
Will you tell Ellie29UK?
Bex: It’s a song! Think, “Thomas Crown Affair” The one with Steve McQueen

admin answers:

Confusion…. But prefer Sting’s version.

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13February2012

Home Windmills Answers

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Lisa asks…

where can i find free information about building windmills?

i’m building an electrical windmill turbine for my home to save energy

admin answers:

I’d suggest checking out…

Http://earth4energy-manual.com/blog/

watch the free video review of one of the most popular guides to building your own source of alternative energy.

Hope it helps & Good luck!!!

- Katie : )

Mandy asks…

i am thinking about getting a windmill for my home in nepa or solar pannels to save money on heating bills?

anyone with opinions?

admin answers:

I have just asked a similar question ,i am planning on purchasing a kit from www.thesecretsofhomemadeenergy.com.they have a windmill and a solar panels kit for the do it yours-elvers,my power bill was over 150.00 more than it was this time a year ago.i heard if you install at least 2 or 3 windmills you will end up selling excess power to the power company.good luck
ps: they have a money back guarantee at that website!

Sharon asks…

What percentage of solar panels & windmills built in the US are built using illegals?

Months ago when Obama toured a solar panel manufacturing plant all of the workers were told to stay home that day. The vast majority were hispanics.

Didn’t Obama want a bunch of illegals in his green energy photo op?

admin answers:

Almost none. Those kind of manufacturing jobs are high paying, skilled labor jobs, the kind that Americans in unions have. There’s no need for unskilled undocumented workers.

Can you cite a source, and a factual one at that? Every photo I can find of Obama’s solar plant photo ops show him with workers. If “all” the workers stayed home, who is that he’s with?

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13February2012

Windmill Turbine Cost Answers

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Susan asks…

How much would it cost to put wind turbines (Windmills) in a city?

Its for a class project, so please give me serious answers! :)

admin answers:

Where in the city, and what size windmills? They typically take 5-25 years to pay for themselves, depending on the politics of local energy.

William asks…

best 750 kw a month windmill?

I’m looking for an affordable windmill that will power my house.it(my house)uses more than 3000 kw(monthly).i would like to fully eliminate these costs with a total of 6 windmills.that would mean each turbine would have to produce 500 kw monthly.any suggestions. (plus ten for best answer)
im asking for a brand please

admin answers:

Windspire looks good, or rather since it is supposedly fairly quite, it sounds good.

First link is to a list of manufactures of small and micro turbines.
The 2nd is to Windspire to get a site survey and quote.

More than 3000 kw monthly? If that is 3,000 kwh per month that is 3 megawatts. That is a bit more than a house should use in a month. Your biggest bang for the buck may be to do an energy audit.

Choice of type and size of wind turbine depends on they type and amount of wind you get. Slow and steady or gusty may make a difference. Look at the NREL sites to find out wind info on your area.

Jenny asks…

Wind turbine – economics?

Suppose a community or small company decides to install a wind turbine (aka modern windmill) in a windy area.

How do they estimate the costs vs payback?
Are specific technologies more efficient or less expensive?

admin answers:

Currently, wind turbines are bad. No one wants a view of one (thus it affects property value) and they make EMFs which may be bad for health and mess with your wifi, mobile and tv reception. They are also high cost maintenance.
Solar towers are a much better option as the technology keep improving, ie: more power from smaller panels.

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13February2012

Wind Turbine Generator Motor Answers

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Sandra asks…

How do I make a small generator motor for my wind turbine at home?

I need to generate enough electricity to power/run my laptop/PC notebook.

admin answers:

A car alternator coupled with an appropriate means to increase the speed may be your most economical method. You might even be able to directly get the voltage your laptop requires if it has an old style mechanical regulator that you can adjust.

Don

Sandy asks…

where can i buy a WIND GENERATOR TURBINE DC MOTOR?

admin answers:

You can buy it in shops in Manhattan

Thomas asks…

Grid connect Controller for wind turbine driven induction generator (async motor)?

Thanks to your many very helpful answers to my previous questions I was able to find a company that sells such a device. As you may recall, I was intrigued by this device: http://www.clariantechnologies.com/main/page_home.html. It is a vertical axis wind turbine driven async motor that acts as an induction generator that plugs directly into an existing outlet in your home. No inverters, no batteries. Sales price around $500. With an electric meter (a freebie from our power company) than can run backwards, this would allow me to greatly reduce my energy bill all at a very low cost. To make the cost even cheaper, and to increase the power output, I want to make my own wind turbines, and use my own async motors. So all I need is the controller.

I have found a company that sells such a device: http://www.prairieturbines.com for $830. It connects a 5500 watt wind turbine driven async motor directly to the grid. No inverter, no batteries. It uses a “hall-device” to measure the RPM, it provides about 1 AMP to the motor to energize its coils, 50amp solid state “zero-cross relays”, capacitors, 30amp breaker/enclosure, an exterior mounted disconnect, and an interior-mounted fused-control voltage switch. This is it!!!

So my question is, does anyone know how to build this controller. This company doesn’t sell the plans to this, and $830 is too high for me. I am sure I could build this with components for less that $400. If there is any electrical engineering person out there that can help, this will be a challenge, but it is great knowing that someone already has figured this out and is selling it.

admin answers:

Look at the Prairie Turbines site again. The price of the micro-controller including the hall device is $255. The $45 book provides a complete list of material and instructions to build everything else.

The micro-controller monitors the speed sensor and provides control signals to two solid-state relays. One relay connects the motor to the grid when the speed reaches the motor’s 1800 RPM synchronous speed and disconnects the motor if the speed drops below 1800 RPM. The other relay is energized to release the brake when the controller is energized and de-energized by the controller when the motor speed exceeds the maximum safe operating speed. If this occurs, the controller apparently must be manually reset.

I did not find the maximum safe operating speed stated on the web site. If the full load speed of the motor is 1750 RPM, the full load slip is 1800 minus 1750 or 50 RPM. The speed at which the motor would generate full load current and present full load torque to the turbine is 1800 RPM plus the full load slip or 1850 RPM. With the design described, a three-phase motor is connected to a single phase source with capacitors connected between the source and the third motor phase. That is likely to increase the motor slip somewhat.

I am not sure what happens if the motor is driven above the speed at which it generates full load current. A three-phase motor operating as an induction generator connected to a three-phase supply has a torque vs. Speed curve that is something like the mirror image of the motoring torque vs. Speed curve. The curve is likely different with the single-phase connection used in this case. I don’t know what the speed vs. Current curve looks like in either case, but I will see if I can find it. I am also curious to know if the Alan Plunkett listed on the web site as an author is the Alan Plunkett that is well known author of technical papers on inverter and variable frequency drive subjects.

Added information:
I found information indicating that, for a 3-phase motor connected to a 3-phase supply, the speed vs. Current curve for induction generator operation is like a mirror image of the speed vs. Current curve for motor operation. That would mean that the maximum speed would need to be limited to the synchronous speed plus the full-load slip. The web site indicates that the full-load speed for the motor that they used is 1725 RPM for 3-phase operation. That would make the maximum speed 1875 RPM plus the additional slip due to the single phase with capacitor arrangement.

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